Ozzie, you said
I'm sure for those who believe in a conspiracy, nothing will shake them from their belief.
Much like a Dub, really.
Brilliant sir, simply brilliant. It explains so much!
hi guys, this belongs with the original post on or about nov 24th, 'watchtower roots'.. the watch tower's greatest blasphemy.
since his corporate coup d'etat after russell's demise.
rutherford had been busily fine tuning his fifth columnist mystical machinery.
Ozzie, you said
I'm sure for those who believe in a conspiracy, nothing will shake them from their belief.
Much like a Dub, really.
Brilliant sir, simply brilliant. It explains so much!
the best site on the web:.
http://www.jwic.com/stat.htm.
one thing that just struck me:.
What's sad from a JW viewpoint at least, is that at last they have a legitimate flaw/shortcoming of the Catholic Church in their handling of this scandal, but since they have their own problems in this area, its kind of hard to point a finger.
.............instead of the bible!!
whenever "new light" comes out, they tell you to ignore their statement made in 1974 watchtower mag #etc, page #, article whatever, paragraph something-something.
i'm sorry, but i never went back to research what those old watchtowers that were printed before i was born even said.
You like that Min? I can still spew it like a pro! I shoulda been on the Writing Commitee. Perhaps I will share more spiritual nourishment in the future. For it is true that although in our modern world, there is no shortage of books, magazines, and online written material, how much of it is truly healthful? Surely it is just as the psalmist-- see there I go again!
news just filtering in .
the society will be announcing to elders only that child abuse in the uk is to be handled differently in 2003 in the uk
it is well in the advanced planning stage that "regional teams of specially trained elders" (as with the hlc, building committees and press ) teams -planned for 2 teams of 4 elders per circuit (total 8) - are being formed to handle and hear any and all child abuse, alleged child abuse and historical child abuse cases.
Amazing!!! a small step in the right direction. Of course this has nothing to do with the lies the media and apostates have been spreading about God's clean spirit-directed organization. Wonder if this will happen in the U.S. as well.
my wife told me that last night a letter was read from the society, explaining how all printing operations in brooklyn were being moved to either walkill or patterson, and that worldwide there would be consolidation of the printing operations.
i know there have been rumors like this floating around here for the last month or so, but now it seems there is confirmation.
has anyone else heard about this letter being read?
Now, that's interesting. My wife said nothing about asking for donations. But she could not remember all the details. Said it was posted on the information board if I wanted to read it( I think that was a little slam at me and my poor meeting attendance).
my wife told me that last night a letter was read from the society, explaining how all printing operations in brooklyn were being moved to either walkill or patterson, and that worldwide there would be consolidation of the printing operations.
i know there have been rumors like this floating around here for the last month or so, but now it seems there is confirmation.
has anyone else heard about this letter being read?
My wife told me that last night a letter was read from the Society, explaining how all printing operations in Brooklyn were being moved to either Walkill or Patterson, and that worldwide there would be consolidation of the printing operations. I know there have been rumors like this floating around here for the last month or so, but now it seems there is confirmation. Has anyone else heard about this letter being read?
I am slightly disappointed it is not online yet.
.............instead of the bible!!
whenever "new light" comes out, they tell you to ignore their statement made in 1974 watchtower mag #etc, page #, article whatever, paragraph something-something.
i'm sorry, but i never went back to research what those old watchtowers that were printed before i was born even said.
Right on Minimus! The publications are provided to give us guidance on the scriptures through the channel God is using today to lead his people. One only has to look to Christendom to see the confusion that those who reject God's ways are left in. Although they have had access to the Bible for many years, and may even read it from time to time, even the most basic teachings of the Bible have been distorted and twisted. How happy we can be that we can understand even the deeper things found in God's Word. Surely Jehovah is blessing his people in these critical last days!
Okay, I gotta stop now before I hurl.
who do you whine to?
i use my mum to tell all my problems to.
i'll phone her, write her, haunt her down if i want to get anything of my chest.
I have no one but my therapist. I can not trust my wife to keep anything in confidence.
as you know or don't know..i'm in the process of doing that slow fade thing.
i still go to the meetings (sunday only) just so i can still talk to family and friends.
well this sunday i went up to the theocratic school overseer and ask him to please take me off the school.
Dropping out of the school is tricky, its not like just not showing up for field service. I told the school overseer to take me off the school "for a while", and that I would let him know when I wanted to be back on the list...
i know jw's are abusive psychologicaly to their members, however so are other churches.
case in point, i knew a woman who would not marry b/c the pope said not to use birth control.
she did not want children, and she could not find it within herself to go against the pope.
Wednesday,
What kind of doctor are you talking about? I had a therapist that said something similar, that abuse is not just found in one religion. He also did not seem too sympathetic to my situation. I found a different therapist(not just because of that), that is much more empathetic.
Yes, there is abuse in other religions. That does not make it any better. The difference is 1) the witnesses claim to be superior to all other religions, 2) the witnesses claim to be the only true christians, and 3)being a witness is very different than being a member of most churches, where there is much less commitment and control over every part of your life.
It sounds like part of what is holding you back from leaving is that you want to find some where else to go, to find a group/religion that will not be abusive and that will fulfill your spiritual needs. That is a worthwhile goal, but your search will not be quick or easy. Sad to say, you may never find such a group. In the meantime, though, why stay where you do not want to be?
And there are other reasons to leave besides the abuse you have suffered. Their failed prophecies are well documented. For myself, I have no desire to support a group that I believe has knowingly caused innocent children to suffer while protecting the abusers.
I know what its like to have a JW spouse too, btw. Your hubby sounds quite insensitive. Hopefully he will wake up.